Looking To The Sky

Jason's aerial adventures

 
  • Home
  • About
  • Categories
    • Buying An Airplane
    • Flights
    • Private Pilot Completion
    • Instrument Rating Completion
  • Flown Airports
  • Ratings
    • Private Pilot Certificate
    • Instrument Rating
    • Commercial Pilot Certificate
  • Go Fly?
Menu
  • Home
  • About
  • Categories
    • Buying An Airplane
    • Flights
    • Private Pilot Completion
    • Instrument Rating Completion
  • Flown Airports
  • Ratings
    • Private Pilot Certificate
    • Instrument Rating
    • Commercial Pilot Certificate
  • Go Fly?
  • WARNING: Don’t Takeoff With Full Flaps!

    After a couple weeks without flying, I decided this last Friday to get some air time.  My flight training for the day ended up being very short due to some unfortunate complications.

    Taking off on a hot day, uphill, with little wind is trouble

    The flight training today was in the Cessna 150, N66589.  I ended up getting things pre-flight ready, listened for the weather, and went on to the taxi way.  Listening to the weather, I found that the winds were fairly calm and in the direction to the south, so I chose to take off out of Twin Oaks in the direction of North.  The winds were quite calm and the direction north is uphill so I found I didn’t have enough power in the Cessna 150 to be able to take off. I quickly pulled back the throttle and got off the runway to take off in downhill to the south.  My first take off was great, though it had been quite a while since flying a Cessna 150 so the lack of power threw me off.

    I ended up deciding to stay in the flight pattern and do a landing right away.  The landing was nicely timed, and adjusting the controls to land went fantastic.  The landing was very smooth.

    Flying with flaps is trouble!

    I headed off the runway and found another aircraft about to take off.  I decided to just follow suit and get behind him for the takeoff.  He flew on out and I prepped for my own.

    I took off down the runway and realized it was a tad bumpy; however I didn’t think much of it and began my assent into the sky.  I found however that the plane just would climb.  I checked to see if I left the carb heat on or if I didn’t have full throttle.  Neither of these conditions were the case.  Before I had time to check much else I heard my tail numbers called on the radio and the announcement that my flaps were in.  I took a look and to my surprise and realization, I found I forgot to raise my flaps after my landing.  As soon as I found things out, I began raising the flaps making sure I didn’t do it too quickly and dip down into the earth.  Thankfully I didn’t have full flaps in on my landing; I really could have caused some structural damage to the plane, and if the worst case happened, myself!

    A short day is a good idea

    I flew the pattern and ended up landing, and getting the plane parked.  I was quite thrown off with this mistake and realize that I MUST follow my checklists.  This was a scary lesson that could have caused some major damage, therefore, something I will not forget anytime soon.

    All in all, it was fun to get out and fly again, but for the next flight, I need to remember to plan ahead, think things through, and follow my lists.

    What have you done lately that scared the s**t out of you?

    Leave your thoughts in the comments!

    Logs:

    Flight Time: 0.5 Hours
    Landings: 2

    photo 1, photo 2

    Related

    June 7, 2011 / Jason / 5

    Categories: Private Pilot Completion

    Tags: Cessna 150, K7S3, N66589, Solo, VFR

    Solo ToD Delay of Game

    Comments are currently closed.

    5 thoughts on “WARNING: Don’t Takeoff With Full Flaps!”

    • TerryNo Gravatar says:
      June 8, 2011 at 10:26 pm

      Hey this is awesome.

    • Nesa K says:
      June 10, 2011 at 3:58 pm

      Excellent story. I like the pictures. Did you also take the pictures Cessna Takeoff and Cessna Flaps?

    • Steve says:
      July 30, 2011 at 8:29 pm

      Great post, and I found it specifically because “a friend of mine” did the same thing (though with full flaps). A 172 will take off, at least from a touch and go, with full flaps at a low enough airspeed not to damage the flaps, but performs pretty horribly (the takeoff is more like a ballooning up, not the gentle tug you normally have to do to get it off the ground). It is very similar to doing a go around with the flaps out, where you must apply full power, control the ballooning, and gently ease out the flaps in stages.

      From the search results I found, it appears to be a right of passage during solo cross country flight. Just like you, I will certainly never make that mistake again.

    • TaylorNo Gravatar says:
      December 19, 2011 at 1:29 pm

      My very fist solo, on like my third takeoff, I was so excited to go, I didn’t realize I had my flaps all the way down until I was turning onto the runway. After crapping my pants even more because of this, I retracted them and continued on.

    • johncNo Gravatar says:
      November 23, 2016 at 1:32 pm

      Just was doing research on this for an incident many years in my past. My early lessons were at Hyde Field, Md. I was flying Cessna 150’s. As I recall, the elevation was 247 ft.
      The plane would do a go around with full flaps at 60-70 mph. I had done this more than once with an instructor aboard and nothing seemed amiss.

      Flash forward 9 years. This time I am in Oklahoma on a hot day. I blew a touch and go and firewalled it, expecting the usual climb performance. This time, the plane just settled back down, at 70 mph. I had run out of runway and the perimeter fence loomed large, it finally got high enough to clear that 5 ft chain link fence. I was flying, but not gaining altitude. About then I realized the flaps were down. I was so low as to be fearful of the configuration change and loss of even a few feet when raising the flaps.I finally horsed it into shallow climb, sucked in the flaps in steps and got out of there.
      I went higher, and tried the same configuration and airspeed in a go-around scenario. In level flight, firewalled, and 70 mph, the VSI showed a descent. The plane finally climbed around 55 mph.
      Big lesson learned about density altitude that day. There was something somewhere I remembered reading about becoming a volunteer, unqualified testpilot when getting into situations like this, and I had attempted an experiment of no importance to anyone!

Logbook

  • Total Flight Time: 318.5 Hours
  • Pilot In Command Time: 224.7 Hours
  • Solo Time: 300.6 Hours
  • >50NM Cross Country Time: 95.2 Hours
  • >50NM Cross Country Time (Solo): 62.5 Hours
  • Night Time: 8.5 Hours
  • Simulated Instrument Time: 4.8 Hours
  • Landings (Day/Night): 617 (593/24)
  • Flight Training Received: 92.8 Hours
  • Ground Training Received: 30.8 Hours

Updated 5/2/2019

Archives

Links

  • Aviation Weather
  • Jason Gets Around
  • Jason's Main Blog
  • The Art of Non-Conformity

Recent Posts

  • Goodbye N79434
  • I’m Still Flying (I’m not dead)!
  • Last Year I Bought A Plane
  • Night and Morning Flights around Downtown Portland
  • Early Morning Downtown Portland with David and Ann

My Airspace

Flight Planning at SkyVector.com

Meta

  • Log in
  • Entries feed
  • Comments feed
  • WordPress.org
 

Recent Posts

  • Goodbye N79434
  • I’m Still Flying (I’m not dead)!
  • Last Year I Bought A Plane
  • Night and Morning Flights around Downtown Portland
  • Early Morning Downtown Portland with David and Ann
  • Completed My First Biennial Flight Review
  • So, I Bought An Airplane
  • Train Tracks To Eugene with Evan
  • Downtown Portland with Josh and Meredith
  • Mt. St. Helens with Melissa, Tomas, and Kristen

Tag Cloud

    Cessna 172 cross-country emergency procedures Emily flight-track flying IFR James K4S9 K7S3 K7S9 KMMV KSLE KSPB KTMK KTTD KUAO Maneuvers Mountain Mt. St. Helens N172MR N734KU N2108Y N5201H N66589 N75542 N79434 no-flight Portland Rick schedule Slips Slow Flight Solo Stalls steep turns Steve Testing Tillamook Training Turns VFR Video VOR Weather

Pages

  • About
  • All
    • Flights
    • Private Pilot Completion
  • Commercial Pilot Certificate
  • Flight Review
  • Flown Airports
  • Go Fly?
  • Instrument Rating
  • Private Pilot Certificate

Categories

  • Annual (3)
  • Buying An Airplane (4)
  • Flights (27)
  • Instrument Rating Completion (3)
  • Private Pilot Completion (96)
  • Uncategorized (1)
  • Update (1)

Archives

Copyright © 2015 Looking To The SkyTheme created by PWT. Powered by WordPress.org